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    Elementary questions about electronics

    Long term storage of camera batteries


    My camera uses AA size 1.25v nickel metal hydride batteries and I've just
    had a set die on me. (holds no charge). If I only use the camera every few
    months or so, what is the best way to store them so they won't degrade?
    Should I leave them full charged, drained or partially drained?

    I have the same question for my camcorder which uses large Lithium-ion
    batteries.

    Thanks,

    Graham

    "Grey" <graha@btinternet.com> wrote in message

    news:H6SdnY077O9MfKPbnZ2dnUVZ8sylnZ2d@bt.com...

    > My camera uses AA size 1.25v nickel metal hydride batteries and I've just
    > had a set die on me. (holds no charge). If I only use the camera every few
    > months or so, what is the best way to store them so they won't degrade?
    > Should I leave them full charged, drained or partially drained?

    > I have the same question for my camcorder which uses large Lithium-ion
    > batteries.

    > Thanks,

    > Graham

    Maybe there is some helpful info here:
    http://is.med.ohio-state.edu/policies/battery.htm

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    "Grey" <graha@btinternet.com> wrote in message

    news:H6SdnY077O9MfKPbnZ2dnUVZ8sylnZ2d@bt.com...

    > My camera uses AA size 1.25v nickel metal hydride batteries and I've just
    > had a set die on me. (holds no charge). If I only use the camera every few
    > months or so, what is the best way to store them so they won't degrade?
    > Should I leave them full charged, drained or partially drained?

    > I have the same question for my camcorder which uses large Lithium-ion
    > batteries.

    > Thanks,

    > Graham

    Energizers are particularily bad about this.  They are great for many months
    and then puke.

    The Rayovac Hybrid (Walmart...look for the rebate) and the Sony Eneloop are
    a different NiMH technology that maintain their charge.  They have a lower
    mAh rating but you will never notice because the self-discharge rate is so
    low.  Store them charged.  I can't help you with the LiIon.
    ; )

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    > My camera uses AA size 1.25v nickel metal hydride batteries and I've just
    > had a set die on me. (holds no charge). If I only use the camera every few
    > months or so, what is the best way to store them so they won't degrade?
    > Should I leave them full charged, drained or partially drained?

    > I have the same question for my camcorder which uses large Lithium-ion
    > batteries.

    > Thanks,

    > Graham

    I've cross-posted this to sci.chem.electrochem.battery . Maybe someone there
    can answer your question.
    --
    John English

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    John E. wrote:
    >> My camera uses AA size 1.25v nickel metal hydride batteries and I've just
    >> had a set die on me. (holds no charge). If I only use the camera every few
    >> months or so, what is the best way to store them so they won't degrade?
    >> Should I leave them full charged, drained or partially drained?

    >> I have the same question for my camcorder which uses large Lithium-ion
    >> batteries.

    >> Thanks,

    >> Graham

    > I've cross-posted this to sci.chem.electrochem.battery . Maybe someone there
    > can answer your question.

    Try the new Sanyo Eneloop NiMH cells.  They are supposed to have a much
    slower self discharge rate.

    Ted

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    On 7 May, 09:22, "Grey" <graha@btinternet.com> wrote:

    > My camera uses AA size 1.25v nickel metal hydride batteries and I've just
    > had a set die on me. (holds no charge). If I only use the camera every few
    > months or so, what is the best way to store them so they won't degrade?
    > Should I leave them full charged, drained or partially drained?

    > I have the same question for my camcorder which uses large Lithium-ion
    > batteries.

    > Thanks,

    > Graham

    I would simply recharge them maybe once per month.
    You could have been unlucky and just bought poor batteries.
    I rarely use my camera and have no problems with rechargeable
    batteries.

    www.ckp-railways.talktalk.net/pcbcad21.htm

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    John E. wrote:
    >> My camera uses AA size 1.25v nickel metal hydride batteries and I've just
    >> had a set die on me. (holds no charge). If I only use the camera every few
    >> months or so, what is the best way to store them so they won't degrade?
    >> Should I leave them full charged, drained or partially drained?

    >> I have the same question for my camcorder which uses large Lithium-ion
    >> batteries.

    >> Thanks,

    >> Graham

    > I've cross-posted this to sci.chem.electrochem.battery . Maybe someone there
    > can answer your question.

    Take a look at http://www.batteryuniversity.com/index.htm for all sorts
    of useful information. I have found that my batteries seem to store best
    as follows:
    NiCd            fully discharged
    NiMH            Full charge, but not kept cooking
    Li-ion &c   25% charge with occasional small top-ups to no more than                30%
    In all cases cooler is better, but not frozen.
    Manufacturers do seem to overestimate cycle life, especially in small
    Li-ion in high load duties.

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    In article <0001HW.C265FEF70139C7F0F0305@news.sf.sbcglobal.net>, incogn@yahoo.com wrote:
    >> My camera uses AA size 1.25v nickel metal hydride batteries and I've just
    >> had a set die on me. (holds no charge). If I only use the camera every few
    >> months or so, what is the best way to store them so they won't degrade?
    >> Should I leave them full charged, drained or partially drained?

    >> I have the same question for my camcorder which uses large Lithium-ion
    >> batteries.

    >> Thanks,

    >> Graham

    >I've cross-posted this to sci.chem.electrochem.battery . Maybe someone there
    >can answer your question.

    I would just charge before use. Keep a set of NON rechargable Lithium backups.

    greg

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    Rayovac Hybrid or Sony Eneloop.
    They hold their charge, no need to charge before use.
    They won't all of a sudden "go bad".

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