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Touch Lamp Is Erratic
I have a lamp near my bed that is controlled by touching a part of the metal. I like it. Each touch brightness until it then turns off. However, it has started turning on in the middle of the night. Anyone know what cause might be? Does something wear out and need to be replaced? -- Wayne Watson (Nevada City, CA) Web Page: <speckledwithStars.net>
On Fri, 11 May 2007 06:10:46 -0700, "W. Watson" <wolf_tra @invalid.com> wrote: >I have a lamp near my bed that is controlled by touching a part of the >metal. I like it. Each touch brightness until it then turns off. However, it >has started turning on in the middle of the night. Anyone know what cause >might be? Does something wear out and need to be replaced? Not "wearing out." One component may be changing value over time changing the threshold it senses as a touch. Touch lamps can be temperamental. Dirt or humidity can change the characteristics - I don't know the type you are talking about but some lamps use a fiber or paper insulator between the metal shell (part you touch or connects to it) and power line connection to the lamp - humidity goes up lamp triggers because the paper is slightly conductive (exacerbated if you've ever spilled something remotely hygroscopic in it) They can also trigger with fluctuations in the power mains - look for a coincident event like a heater switching on or lamp dimmer used or something else along those lines. Power outages or glitches are another cause of false triggers. The things are too cheap to be worth fixing - and there's a shock hazard involved while troubleshooting it and again after it is back in use if the repair is less than safe. -- ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----
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It sounds like I should open it up and replace the necessary components.
default wrote: > On Fri, 11 May 2007 06:10:46 -0700, "W. Watson" > <wolf_tra @invalid.com> wrote: >> I have a lamp near my bed that is controlled by touching a part of the >> metal. I like it. Each touch brightness until it then turns off. However, it >> has started turning on in the middle of the night. Anyone know what cause >> might be? Does something wear out and need to be replaced? > Not "wearing out." One component may be changing value over time > changing the threshold it senses as a touch. > Touch lamps can be temperamental. Dirt or humidity can change the > characteristics - I don't know the type you are talking about but some > lamps use a fiber or paper insulator between the metal shell (part you > touch or connects to it) and power line connection to the lamp - > humidity goes up lamp triggers because the paper is slightly > conductive (exacerbated if you've ever spilled something remotely > hygroscopic in it) > They can also trigger with fluctuations in the power mains - look for > a coincident event like a heater switching on or lamp dimmer used or > something else along those lines. Power outages or glitches are > another cause of false triggers. > The things are too cheap to be worth fixing - and there's a shock > hazard involved while troubleshooting it and again after it is back in > use if the repair is less than safe.
-- Wayne Watson (Nevada City, CA) Web Page: <speckledwithStars.net>
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"W. Watson" wrote: > It sounds like I should open it up and replace the necessary components.
You can get the whole module at Home depot for less than the cost to repair. BTW, sometimes they are triggered by two way radios in police cars or other VHF mobile radios when they are within a block of you. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
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On May 11, 9:10 am, "W. Watson" <wolf_tra @invalid.com> wrote: > I have a lamp near my bed that is controlled by touching a part of the > metal. I like it. Each touch brightness until it then turns off. However, it > has started turning on in the middle of the night. Anyone know what cause > might be? Does something wear out and need to be replaced? > -- > Wayne Watson (Nevada City, CA) > Web Page: <speckledwithStars.net>
I experience the same problem. Traced the cause to the cat. -----------------------------------------------Reply-----------------------------------------------
Thanks. I live in a very hilly area in a pretty small community. This happens at night and wakes us up. Michael A. Terrell wrote: > "W. Watson" wrote: >> It sounds like I should open it up and replace the necessary components. > You can get the whole module at Home depot for less than the cost to > repair. BTW, sometimes they are triggered by two way radios in police > cars or other VHF mobile radios when they are within a block of you.
-- Wayne Watson (Nevada City, CA) Web Page: <speckledwithStars.net>
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Thanks for the mention of Home Depot too. I live 40 miles from the nearest one, and happen to be going there today for another reason. I'll check out these fixtures.
W. Watson wrote: > Thanks. I live in a very hilly area in a pretty small community. This > happens at night and wakes us up. > Michael A. Terrell wrote: >> "W. Watson" wrote: >>> It sounds like I should open it up and replace the necessary components. >> You can get the whole module at Home depot for less than the cost to >> repair. BTW, sometimes they are triggered by two way radios in police >> cars or other VHF mobile radios when they are within a block of you.
-- Wayne Watson (Nevada City, CA) Web Page: <speckledwithStars.net>
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ljoh @nycap.rr.com wrote: > On May 11, 9:10 am, "W. Watson" <wolf_tra @invalid.com> wrote: >> I have a lamp near my bed that is controlled by touching a part of >> the metal. I like it. Each touch brightness until it then turns off. >> However, it has started turning on in the middle of the night. >> Anyone know what cause might be? Does something wear out and need to >> be replaced? -- >> Wayne Watson (Nevada City, CA) >> Web Page: <speckledwithStars.net> > I experience the same problem. Traced the cause to the cat.
That or low flying UFOs. -----------------------------------------------Reply-----------------------------------------------
Anthony Fremont wrote: > ljoh@nycap.rr.com wrote: > > On May 11, 9:10 am, "W. Watson" <wolf_tra@invalid.com> wrote: > >> I have a lamp near my bed that is controlled by touching a part of > >> the metal. I like it. Each touch brightness until it then turns off. > >> However, it has started turning on in the middle of the night. > >> Anyone know what cause might be? Does something wear out and need to > >> be replaced? -- > >> Wayne Watson (Nevada City, CA) > >> Web Page: <speckledwithStars.net> > > I experience the same problem. Traced the cause to the cat. > That or low flying UFOs.
Unidentified Furry Object? -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
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On 11-May-2007, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr@earthlink.net> wrote:
> "W. Watson" wrote: > > It sounds like I should open it up and replace the necessary components. > You can get the whole module at Home depot for less than the cost to > repair. BTW, sometimes they are triggered by two way radios in police > cars or other VHF mobile radios when they are within a block of you. > -- > Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to > prove it. > Member of DAV #85. > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida
It's probably not the module. Touch Sensitive switches are very sensitive to High Frequency radio signals. You probably have a nearby Amateur Radio or CB Radio Station operating in the middle of the night. It could also be a two-way mobile radio passing by on the street. I have heard that there are some bypassing methods and that there are modules with less senstivity. The problem is that the "Touch" element is an antenna which reacts to the extra signal from your body when you touch it. Maybe you could wrap the whole thing in aluminum foil. Ken Fowler
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On Sat, 12 May 2007 17:58:35 GMT, "Ken Fowler" <k @yahoo.com> wrote:
>On 11-May-2007, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr@earthlink.net> wrote: >> "W. Watson" wrote: >> > It sounds like I should open it up and replace the necessary components. >> You can get the whole module at Home depot for less than the cost to >> repair. BTW, sometimes they are triggered by two way radios in police >> cars or other VHF mobile radios when they are within a block of you. >> -- >> Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to >> prove it. >> Member of DAV #85. >> Michael A. Terrell >> Central Florida >It's probably not the module. Touch Sensitive switches are very sensitive to High Frequency radio >signals. You probably have a nearby Amateur Radio or CB Radio Station operating in the middle of >the night. It could also be a two-way mobile radio passing by on the street. I have heard that >there are some bypassing methods and that there are modules with less senstivity. The problem is >that the "Touch" element is an antenna which reacts to the extra signal from your body when you >touch it. Maybe you could wrap the whole thing in aluminum foil. >Ken Fowler
I had one of the Heathkit modules long before they became a Chinese export. The Heath one had a low pass filter so it would only work with a 60 hertz hum signal - but no telling how the Chinks do it. -- ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----
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I found two different modules at Hope Depot by West Tec or Tec West. One is placed in the socket and the other is about the size of a match box. The latter has two wires coming out of it. I don't think it will work on my lamp. I'll look for the former one in a local h/w store. First, I'll open the lamp later and see if it operates that way.
Ken Fowler wrote: > On 11-May-2007, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr @earthlink.net> wrote: >> "W. Watson" wrote: >>> It sounds like I should open it up and replace the necessary components. >> You can get the whole module at Home depot for less than the cost to >> repair. BTW, sometimes they are triggered by two way radios in police >> cars or other VHF mobile radios when they are within a block of you. >> -- >> Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to >> prove it. >> Member of DAV #85. >> Michael A. Terrell >> Central Florida > It's probably not the module. Touch Sensitive switches are very sensitive to High Frequency radio > signals. You probably have a nearby Amateur Radio or CB Radio Station operating in the middle of > the night. It could also be a two-way mobile radio passing by on the street. I have heard that > there are some bypassing methods and that there are modules with less senstivity. The problem is > that the "Touch" element is an antenna which reacts to the extra signal from your body when you > touch it. Maybe you could wrap the whole thing in aluminum foil. > Ken Fowler
-- Wayne Watson (Nevada City, CA) Web Page: <speckledwithStars.net>
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Well, I guessed wrong. It's the matchbox type with wires. However, I have not bought a replacement unit. It may be as someone said above that it is dependent upon some SW signal around here. Oh, well, maybe I'll put a switch in it life we did for my wife's.
W. Watson wrote: > I found two different modules at Hope Depot by West Tec or Tec West. One > is placed in the socket and the other is about the size of a match box. > The latter has two wires coming out of it. I don't think it will work on > my lamp. I'll look for the former one in a local h/w store. First, I'll > open the lamp later and see if it operates that way. > Ken Fowler wrote: >> On 11-May-2007, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr@earthlink.net> wrote: >>> "W. Watson" wrote: >>>> It sounds like I should open it up and replace the necessary >>>> components. >>> You can get the whole module at Home depot for less than the cost to >>> repair. BTW, sometimes they are triggered by two way radios in police >>> cars or other VHF mobile radios when they are within a block of you. >>> -- >>> Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to >>> prove it. >>> Member of DAV #85. >>> Michael A. Terrell >>> Central Florida >> It's probably not the module. Touch Sensitive switches are very >> sensitive to High Frequency radio >> signals. You probably have a nearby Amateur Radio or CB Radio Station >> operating in the middle of >> the night. It could also be a two-way mobile radio passing by on the >> street. I have heard that >> there are some bypassing methods and that there are modules with less >> senstivity. The problem is >> that the "Touch" element is an antenna which reacts to the extra >> signal from your body when you >> touch it. Maybe you could wrap the whole thing in aluminum foil. >> Ken Fowler
-- Wayne Watson (Nevada City, CA) Web Page: <speckledwithStars.net>
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On Mon, 14 May 2007 04:43:41 +0000, W. Watson wrote: > Well, I guessed wrong. It's the matchbox type with wires. However, I have > not bought a replacement unit. It may be as someone said above that it is > dependent upon some SW signal around here. Oh, well, maybe I'll put a switch > in it life we did for my wife's.
If you use a push-on, push-off switch, you can maintain that "touch on, touch-off" feeling. ;-) Cheers! Rich PS: Bottom-posting is the norm here.
> W. Watson wrote: >> I found two different modules at Hope Depot by West Tec or Tec West. One >> is placed in the socket and the other is about the size of a match box. >> The latter has two wires coming out of it. I don't think it will work on >> my lamp. I'll look for the former one in a local h/w store. First, I'll >> open the lamp later and see if it operates that way. >> Ken Fowler wrote: >>> On 11-May-2007, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>> "W. Watson" wrote: >>>>> It sounds like I should open it up and replace the necessary >>>>> components. >>>> You can get the whole module at Home depot for less than the cost to >>>> repair. BTW, sometimes they are triggered by two way radios in police >>>> cars or other VHF mobile radios when they are within a block of you. >>>> -- >>>> Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to >>>> prove it. >>>> Member of DAV #85. >>>> Michael A. Terrell >>>> Central Florida >>> It's probably not the module. Touch Sensitive switches are very >>> sensitive to High Frequency radio >>> signals. You probably have a nearby Amateur Radio or CB Radio Station >>> operating in the middle of >>> the night. It could also be a two-way mobile radio passing by on the >>> street. I have heard that >>> there are some bypassing methods and that there are modules with less >>> senstivity. The problem is >>> that the "Touch" element is an antenna which reacts to the extra >>> signal from your body when you >>> touch it. Maybe you could wrap the whole thing in aluminum foil. >>> Ken Fowler
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